I have serious reservations about pinning all my arguments against theism to the theory of Evolution. It's not that I doubt the theory itself, it's just that I find there is so much more science out there to discredit the belief in God.
Richard Dawkins is the high profile soldier who has taken up the sword in the cause against those who see evolution theory as a threat to their religion. The Creation Scientists for some reason known only to them, feel that evolution is the most threatening scientific theory to the belief in God. That's their problem.
I don't think it's enough to do battle with the forces of darkness and ignorance purely on the evolution theory front.
Evolution cannot be questioned. It is a fact.
How it is explained is by Darwin's theory of natural selection.
Darwin might end up being wrong. Evolution will remain an undisputed fact.
This is the critical distinction that many people overlook. It is not the fact of evolution that is in question but the mechanism for evolution.
Creation Scientists (and I use the phrase with acute disgust) are not true scientists. They are religious fanatics with an axe to grind. They have a problem with evolution.
Would people take them so seriously if they were advocating a flat earth?
Would we take them seriously if they advocated the sun revolves around the earth?
My argument is forget the narrow focus of evolution and look at the universe.
Look at electricity for example. Look at nuclear physics. These are triumphs of science that have found practical uses in technology.
The power of science is awesome and frightening when we can unleash the powers of nature.
Genetic engineering scares us because we enter the realm of the Gods in the ability to shape life forms.
Are you still talking about the intangible the indefinable and the mystical when there is so much evidence for wonder and awe that exists in the universe?
It's time to shake off the acceptance of mumbo jumbo that leads to nowhere, religion emerges from darkness and ignorance and leads us up a blind alley back to darkness and ignorance.
Religion isn't the source of morality and ethics, religion isn't the source of humanity, religion isn't the source of compassion and understanding. These qualities are inherent in the species, in all species that exist in a social group.
People think atheists have no morality.
Atheists are more moral than any religious person because there is no escape clause for misdeeds in the atheist world. In the atheist world, there is no forgiveness by some higher being.
Do something wrong and you live with it the rest of your life. It's better to think twice about doing wrong because there is no forgiving. No forgiveness where you hurt somebody.
No absolving of sins just because you ask. It that sense, you are more compelled to behave morally than somebody who thinks their transgressions will be forgiven.
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7 comments:
The reason creationists get hung up on evolution is simple.
Creation is the very first book of the bible. Everything else is based on what happens in the first few chapters. If they are wrong, there is no need for the rest of the faith. It just becomes a nice but pointless story. Their problem is that they think need to take it extremely literal. As if the scribes were not relying on years of oral repetition for the details (of which there are few).
As if words never changed meaning over the years. As if translations were always exact.
I believe in God, the bible and creation. However, I believe in what is meant not necessarily what is written. And I don't always know what is meant either and don't pretend or think that my suppositions are correct. They are merely suppositions and open to debate and correction.
I used to not believe in God but I do now in spite of Christians. And many Christians are narrow minded, egotistical, egocentric, arrogant, legalistic, greedy and lots of other negative things. All the things Jesus preached against. But they don't see it because they are defending Jesus and God. And they don't see that they are their own worst enemy. It is the spiritual aspect that makes the physical world both more beautiful and more terrible. Instead, they get bogged down in black and white and don't see the colour.
I too think the universe is fascinating and awesome on its own merits but I don't think it or we are just the result of a big cosmic accident. Don't get me wrong. There is definitely cause and effect. I believe that God rarely intrudes upon the laws he created.
I know that atheists can be moral. My parents were very moral atheists. Far more honest and reliable than many Christians I've known. They could have used the concept of forgiveness though. Not so much to receive forgiveness as to give it. Their lives and mine would have been richer.
Many Christians would be better off if they could learn the concept as well.
Jeannie, thanks for your comment. I do agree with you about the importance of being able to forgive others. That's definitely a thought provoking subject for another post.
Thought-provoking post.
Still, although atheists have no higher power from whom to be absolved of sin, neither do they have an ultimate reward (heaven) for their good deeds on earth.
As you write, atheists will have to live with their mistakes "for the rest of their lives"; christians will have to live with their earthly actions forever, either in heaven or hell (or so they believe).
Now, I agree that this belief in an afterlife does not necessarily compel all religious believers to behave morally on earth. But it surely compels some.
In sum, I agree that morality exists independent of religion, but I don't think you can make the case that atheists are more moral than any religious person - not less, surely, but not more. There are "good" and "bad" atheists just as there are good and bad Christians.
-Peter
I actually agree that atheists don't have to be moral because we don't have an out clause.
And morality is definitely hardwired in all man independent of beliefs.
Thanks Peter, you do have a point about atheists not being more moral than Christians.
I've heard Richard Dawkins being interviewed on the radio a couple of times recently. I'm almost ready to go and by the book!
Best wishes
Mcewan, Richard Dawkins is awesome as a writer on the mechanism of evolution. I'm not so sure of his skills and ability to convince in the areas of theology. Thanks for your comment.
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