Thursday, January 20, 2011

Muslims,politics and Islam

Sometimes I wonder if all the thousands of words I have written about Muslims and Islam make any difference to public opinion.
Maybe, it would just be better to give more media attention to people like  Ibrahim Siddiq-Conlon
So here is the news report in its entirety.



ISLAMIC preacher Ibrahim Siddiq-Conlon points heavenwards to emphasise his message for the governments of Australia -- there is no God but Allah and only his laws should be obeyed.
"My attack is on the Prime Minister of Australia," he said yesterday. "I hate the parliament in Canberra. I want to go straight for the jugular vein and advise the parliament that they have no right to legislate. They should immediately step down and let the Muslims take over."
An Australian-born convert to Islam, Siddiq-Conlon is the self-anointed leader of a group called Sharia4Australia, which is pushing for the introduction of sharia courts as a first step towards achieving Islamic law.
"One day Australia will live under sharia; it's inevitable," he said. "If they (Australians) don't accept it, that's not our problem. We hope, and our objective is to have a peaceful transition, but when you look at history that has never been the case. There's always been a fight. It is inevitable that one day there will be a struggle for Islam in Australia."
A masters graduate in architecture from the University of Technology Sydney, Siddiq-Conlon formed Sharia4Australia last year. He said he had three objectives. The first is to persuade Muslims they must hate "taghoot", the worship of any God other than Allah, which includes democracy.
"They must hate it, speak out against it. And, if that doesn't work, take action against it."
His other objectives are to advise elected governments they have no authority to rule, and to educate non-Muslims on the benefits of sharia, including punishments such as stoning adulterers and severing the hands of thieves.
"If chopping off the hands is the punishment given by the sharia court then we say glad tidings, because chopping off the hands -- when you understand what is sharia -- is a mercy to that person.
"Why is it a mercy getting your hands chopped off? Because it can be expiation for your sins. It is better to get punished in this life than to go underground into the grave or into the hellfire for eternity."
Siddiq-Conlon will join a debate tonight at the Parramatta Town Hall in Sydney on the merits of sharia versus democracy. The event was organised by self-styled debate promoter Zaky Mallah, who was acquitted of terrorism charges in 2005 but pleaded guilty to threatening to kill a commonwealth officer after his passport was cancelled.
The pro-democracy case will be argued by an Australian army veteran, self-described "concerned Aussie" and senior member of the pro-gun Firearms Forum, Jack Zedee. "The issue with Mr Conlon and Sharia4Australia is they are preaching hatred. His views horrify me," Mr Zedee told The Australian.
Police and private security are expected at the debate, after both sides claimed to have received death threats. Mallah said he had tried to cancel the event but the debaters insisted on proceeding.
Siddiq-Conlon shrugs off concerns his campaign will damage the moderate Muslim community. "If it causes a backlash against the Muslims, I can't help that. This is a necessary debate."


7 comments:

Jeannie said...

It's pretty scary that there are people who truly believe that everyone should live under Islam whether or not they are followers.

Damien said...

Lexcen,

I think Ibrahim Siddiq-Conlon maybe the Australian version of Amjen Choudry

Anjem Choudary: Islam Cannot Survive in a Secular Society

The only problem with just using these Islamist self parodies, is that people can always say that they are extremists, and convince westerners that very few Muslims think like them, since most Muslim fundamentalists are not dumb as they are. They do help our cause through, and hopefully they will never come to that realization.

Lexcen said...

Damien,
Anjem Choudary makes fair comment. I think Islam will overwhelm a secular society rather than adapt to it. I think Islam will destroy a secular society rather than integrate with it. Islam and secular society are poles apart and the two cannot co-exist as long as Islam adheres to the belief that the only legitimate laws are those of Allah.

Damien said...

Lexcen,

Yes, I agree. But look at how pitiful he tries to make himself look while basically admitting exactly what he wants. Its like he thinks he can gain our sympathy by pointing out how unfair it is that Muslims can't have their little theocracy. When I first saw that I wondered if it was a joke, because I actually laughed.

Damien said...

On my inside at least

Lexcen said...

Damien,
Muslims take on the "victim" persona wherever they are. Yes it's pathetic and laughable.

Damien said...

Lexcen,

But in Choudry's case I think its especially laughable, because if anyone knows about how the average westerner feels about theocracy of any kind, he'll under stand what the real reaction to his speech is likely to be, if they realize that he's being serious. Not to mention the fact that I don't think that this show was put together by Muslims for Muslims. It appears to have been put together by a mainstream British company. Here's a longer version of the show, with Choudary's speech at the end.

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